Reality check. Just a little something for the one hit wonder Atheist that don’t have any discussion points except…
“Hand him over“?
Logically, if the personal God of the Bible exist, then He would have a choice in this debate, to become a rock or other such inanimate object (that has no choice but to be ‘handed over’).
Logically, if God does exist, then how reasonable is it to say, “if you can’t hand me God, he can’t logically exist”?
This statement is equally as silly…
“If you can’t produce physical evidence of a nonphysical (or spiritual) aspect of our physical universe, then I can logically assume it doesn’t exist”. This is also an oxymoron.
If Jesus can travel between different worlds and realms, and actually holds the keys to death and life (as recorded in Scripture), then it is entirely possible, logical, and reasonable to assume that He would do so for humility (also as recorded), and totally ignore arrogance, and pride, (again, as recorded).
I’m sorry, but you have no logical grounds to say God can’t exist because He validates His existence according to the protocol recorded in Scripture, but not for people that don’t know how to follow simple instructions, or refuse to.
You really want us to “demonstrate God”?
“Reproduce God”
You really want to test God at the lab, to make sure He’s God?
Ironically, the people that make these absurd request would do just that, if they could, which they can’t. Thank God it has not one thing to do with reality. You neither have a logical argument, nor a reasonable one. In fact, the scientist that are also Christians actually followed this protocol, and obtained the evidence that now supports their claim of the knowledge of God’s existence. This is no longer “belief”; we know God. In Scripture this protocol is referred to as ordinances, because (duhh) they have to be done in order.
I’m pretty sure “show me you’re real now God or else” is out of order. The very first ordinance is to humble yourself… so I’m sorry arrogance, you get nothing.
If you guys actually do want evidence, then do the research according to the protocol. If you follow the protocol, you’ll get your evidence. If not, go ahead and die thinking spiritual people are just not as skeptical as you. Keep thinking we just believe a story such as this without verification, and valid evidence. I’m not stupid, and needed just as much evidence as you now say you do.
But you’re like someone claiming that there is no evidence for anything microscopic, then try to justify this view by refusing to use a microscope.
I got my evidence by following the rules. Get your own. or you will die refusing anything you can’t rule over. Testimony is God’s choice for taking excuses away from people that will face a judgment call. So those of you that think you die and “it’s over”, Fyi I have actually died so I know there is “another place”… and no, science can’t know anything about that either, FULL STOP. They can’t know if a minute “here” is a year “there”, or even if there is a “there”. Scientist dig holes in the ground and measure rocks, so they will never find evidence of anything spiritual. They don’t have a clue, nor will they ever find one by digging holes in the ground.
If you keep doing what you’re doing, you’re gonna get what you already have, but if you want evidence, it’s “there”….not “here”, and it damn sure isn’t in my pocket.
-Peace
“If Jesus can travel between different worlds and realms, and actually holds the keys to death and life…”
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
“…(as recorded in Scripture), then it is entirely possible, logical, and reasonable to assume that He would do so for humility (also as recorded), and totally ignore arrogance, and pride, (again, as recorded).”
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question
I’m sorry but you haven’t provided enough information in in your comment so I have no idea what you mean by posting links to logical fallacy definitions. Is there a point you would like to make? Just so you know, claiming something is a fallacy does not make a statement fallacious. You have to actually show why a statement qualifies for a fallacy.